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how is it different than it was when osama bin laden was alive? >> bin laden believed in centralization. he believed in a centralized organize station. that didn't work. al qaeda didn't work because the united states went into afghanistan and bombed all the camps to dust. what ended up happening is there were other operatives from al qaeda who realized it is better to have affiliates and different groups in different countries with their own leadership, media wings and coordinate at the top level. even if al qaeda disappears in one country or another, it persists in particular areas that it has a longstanding presence. places like yemen. >> when you look at the number of organizations you see those. yet yemen issued a statement saying the evacuation serves the interests of the ex treemists. they use it as a re kruting tool. we have talked about inspire magazine which they use to inspire people to jihad. they always have said that when the united states takes an action to keep its citizens safe it's a victory for them. >> they had an entire edition
how is it different than it was when osama bin laden was alive? >> bin laden believed in centralization. he believed in a centralized organize station. that didn't work. al qaeda didn't work because the united states went into afghanistan and bombed all the camps to dust. what ended up happening is there were other operatives from al qaeda who realized it is better to have affiliates and different groups in different countries with their own leadership, media wings and coordinate at the...
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today he spoke to marines in california about the threat we still face. >> because of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you "caught on camera's" top ranks have been hammered. even though the decimated the al qaeda leadership that attacked us on 9/11, al qaeda affiliates and like-minded extremists still threaten our homeland, still
today he spoke to marines in california about the threat we still face. >> because of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you "caught on camera's" top ranks have been hammered. even though the decimated the al qaeda leadership that attacked us on 9/11, al qaeda affiliates and like-minded extremists still threaten our homeland, still
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osama bin laden determined to attack the united states. my eyes popped out of my head when that happened. >> this is the president who escalated the war in afghanistan. it doesn't make sense to say he is afraid of conflict. he has blown these guys up with drones. he doubled down in afghanistan. the critique is from the left. >> talk to some of the guys close in. he is pretty darn tough. this guy is not some jimmy carter on this stuff. thank you, michael crowley. not that there's anything wrong with jimmy carter but he wasn't exactly a fighter. we always agree, jonathan, that's very dangerous. up next, it's august and congress is out of session. it's like calvin coolidge, he died, how did you tell. anyway, the birthers are back and this is "hardball." the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] some question physics. some question gravity. and some... even have the audacity to question improbability. with best-in-class towing and best-in-class torque these are some of the bold, new ram commercial trucks -- built to blow your imagination.
osama bin laden determined to attack the united states. my eyes popped out of my head when that happened. >> this is the president who escalated the war in afghanistan. it doesn't make sense to say he is afraid of conflict. he has blown these guys up with drones. he doubled down in afghanistan. the critique is from the left. >> talk to some of the guys close in. he is pretty darn tough. this guy is not some jimmy carter on this stuff. thank you, michael crowley. not that there's...
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the fact of the matter is we've always known despite the killing of osama bin laden that there's been a series of franchise organizations directly related to al qaeda. they've been in the caucuses in the north africa and the al qaeda which committed attacks in amgeria, as well as in libya. there have been, of course, the granddaddy of these franchise groups. al qaeda and the arabian peninsula where the continuous secret shadowy drone wars continue as we speak against terrorists. just the other day the u.s. drone strike took out a series of al qaeda operatives and now we something we never wanted to see again. al qaeda in iraq has resurrected itself and more al qaeda operatives in syria. and then, just within the last 24 hours, mara, the dr. evil of al qaeda, the number two who's still alive and needs to be dead issued a statement after several years calling on attacks on united states. so, there's a confluence of circumstances, including the end of ramadan to make this a very unholy period for american diplomacy. >> now, let's turn to the middle east peace talks which took place earli
the fact of the matter is we've always known despite the killing of osama bin laden that there's been a series of franchise organizations directly related to al qaeda. they've been in the caucuses in the north africa and the al qaeda which committed attacks in amgeria, as well as in libya. there have been, of course, the granddaddy of these franchise groups. al qaeda and the arabian peninsula where the continuous secret shadowy drone wars continue as we speak against terrorists. just the other...
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bin laden, something the bush administration failed to do. and he's alsoing more cautious. if you look at the way we dealt with libya and egypt, sort of backing off and sort of supporting what we saw as the goals of the arab street without putting boots on the ground, so this president who was famously cautious about iraq is now in an awkward position. the things we were told about saddam hussein are actually true in libya, and we have this caution. >> we are talking about the republicans in their her to the president, a lot of people were questioning where they were yesterday at the march on washington, the celebration. we have dr. martin luther king's speech yesterday, but i want to show -- i'm sorry. we don't have that sound, but what i do have is the information that john boehner and eric cantor were invited to be there, and they decided not to be there. mlk was a registered republican, wasn't he? >> according to one family member. >> his father was. >> his father was. >> why would republicans take a distant approach to wanting to be at t
bin laden, something the bush administration failed to do. and he's alsoing more cautious. if you look at the way we dealt with libya and egypt, sort of backing off and sort of supporting what we saw as the goals of the arab street without putting boots on the ground, so this president who was famously cautious about iraq is now in an awkward position. the things we were told about saddam hussein are actually true in libya, and we have this caution. >> we are talking about the republicans...
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i think obama because of osama bin laden, basically continuing the policies of his pred assessor is flank on 2012. all the national security stuff is going to be revisited in 2016 whether it's hillary clinton or someone else. republicans will want to lay the ground work. >> not to overstate the tea party but some of the tea party types, if they are taken seriously -- >> this is put your money where your mouth is. >> this is put your money where your mouth is time for these people. they should tell speaker boehner to cool it. this is our time. >> it is interesting this is coming, heather. talking about the resurgence of al qaeda and iraq, to have the conversation with that as a backdrop is theeth ka si of the reforms you are proposing. >>> coming up, a year ago mitt romney officially attacked paul ryan to be his running meat. they begin to speculate about 2016, not naming any names, a new book takes a look back. we will talk to dan balls about romney and the race that was, just ahead. >>> time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. his first job was working at the carnival games
i think obama because of osama bin laden, basically continuing the policies of his pred assessor is flank on 2012. all the national security stuff is going to be revisited in 2016 whether it's hillary clinton or someone else. republicans will want to lay the ground work. >> not to overstate the tea party but some of the tea party types, if they are taken seriously -- >> this is put your money where your mouth is. >> this is put your money where your mouth is time for these...
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that is more grief than osama bin laden? i don't think so, rush. coming up. why the north carolina governor thinks he can give cookies to his opponents after lying to them in the campaign and signing a new very restrictive abortion law. the governor crossed the street, carrying a plate of cookies and reportedly told a woman "these are for you, god bless you." protesters placed the plate of cookies back at the mansion gates with a note reading governor mccrory, we'll take women's health over cookies. protesters say governor mccrory is breaking a promise he clearly made on the campaign trail last year. >> this past year, state lawmakers passed the women's right to no act, adding legislation making it more restrictive to get abortions in north carolina. if you're elected governor, what restrictions on abortion would you agree to sign. i'll start with you, mr. mccrory. >> none. >> all right. joining me now are elise hogue, i wonder why would the governor in that debate give such a clear answer, if this is what he was going to end up doing. what was he thinking ba
that is more grief than osama bin laden? i don't think so, rush. coming up. why the north carolina governor thinks he can give cookies to his opponents after lying to them in the campaign and signing a new very restrictive abortion law. the governor crossed the street, carrying a plate of cookies and reportedly told a woman "these are for you, god bless you." protesters placed the plate of cookies back at the mansion gates with a note reading governor mccrory, we'll take women's...
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osama bin laden is no more. we've got a new tower rising above the new york skyline. al-qaeda is on the run and bin laden is dead. but thanks to the incredible service of our men and women in uniform, al-qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is no more. we decimated al-qaeda's core leadership and brought osama bin laden the justice he deserves. al-qaeda has been decimated. osama bin laden is dead. >> steve: fast forward to today, think about this, it is extraordinary, during the run up to the election, that was the president where he was talking about al-qaeda is on the run. it's been decimated. talk about a double standard. think back to the time when george w. bush was there on the deck of that aircraft carrier and behind him was the big sign that said mission accomplished. right? the outrage from the main stream media was amazing. they pretty much wanted him impeached for having the audacity to say something like that and he didn't even say it. it was printed behind him. now you fast forward to the president of the united states in the last campaign talking about
osama bin laden is no more. we've got a new tower rising above the new york skyline. al-qaeda is on the run and bin laden is dead. but thanks to the incredible service of our men and women in uniform, al-qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is no more. we decimated al-qaeda's core leadership and brought osama bin laden the justice he deserves. al-qaeda has been decimated. osama bin laden is dead. >> steve: fast forward to today, think about this, it is extraordinary, during the run up...
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that is more grief than osama bin laden? i don't think so, rush. coming up. why the north carolina governor thinks he can give cookies to his opponents after lying to them in the campaign and signing a new very restrictive abortion law. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪ folks have suffered from frequent heartburn. but getting heartburn and then treating day after day is a thing of the past. block the acid with prilosec otc, and don't get heartburn in the first place. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hou
that is more grief than osama bin laden? i don't think so, rush. coming up. why the north carolina governor thinks he can give cookies to his opponents after lying to them in the campaign and signing a new very restrictive abortion law. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male...
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that osama bin laden was in a different neighboring country. they did take up the facility where they believe he was to be holed up. i am not aware of that particular table. on our twitter page -- a great point jim is making. basically, you are right. in many ways it is. revealed we were listening in on the communications between the leader of the team. what that unfortunately men is most likely we have their cell communications that enabled us to do that. means weation of that have bird that source. that source. you could imagine how tough it is to get the top leaders and a gold mine. that close to getting that close to the top leadership would be commended and is a gold mine. unfortunately would bring that source. we will no longer be able to use them in future operations. they will move to different sources. damaging revelation that of communication is true these individuals. the second point is it is disconcerting because if you look at the sensitive side the exploitation when we took down osama bin laden, what you will , you see a correspo
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bin laden and the 15 leaders of al qaeda i've taken off the field. the notion that this guy is somehow appeasing our enemies is so preposterous. >> do you think they have polled on this, the neocons, they figure after the embarrassment of iraq, a war they wanted to fight. they wanted to fight the war. george w. wanted to fight it, and the vice president wanted to fight it. they all wanted to fight it. okay. they decided that we have sort of forgotten that, and now they're coming back. bolton is back, kristol is back. do you think -- do the think it's time for more rousing? when they say retaliation, their idea of retaliation after 9/11, steve, was going into iraq. retaliation. what does that mean? >> i have never gotten the impression that their world views were radically altered by what happened in the last decade, after the invasion of iraq. i don't think the world view was changed. i think they sense an opportunity within the republican party, the argument in the republican party over foreign policy. whenever they see an opportunity to connect the
bin laden and the 15 leaders of al qaeda i've taken off the field. the notion that this guy is somehow appeasing our enemies is so preposterous. >> do you think they have polled on this, the neocons, they figure after the embarrassment of iraq, a war they wanted to fight. they wanted to fight the war. george w. wanted to fight it, and the vice president wanted to fight it. they all wanted to fight it. okay. they decided that we have sort of forgotten that, and now they're coming back....
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where is osama bin laden from? yemen and saudi arabia. >> the people who attacked us were saudi arabians. >> that's where the threat is coming from. >> howie, you have to jump in. >> maybe the administration is over reacting. we don't know the details. times reports this is based on specific intelligence intercepts. i don't think it is just an exercise. at the same time it dents the administration and narrative that al qaeda has been neutralized. to be fair, barack obama never rolled out a mission accomplished banner and said the threat was completely eradicated. for the chatter about whether or not the politics of this are smart, are they doing too much, too little, it pales compared to what would happen if there were american casualties and everybody would be on the white house, why didn't you do something? >> senator demint, does the administration's policy -- look, they don't need an excuse to hate us. they hate us and they will continue to hate us, the bad guys in that part of the world. has the administration
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bin laden and decimated a good part of the central command of al qaeda, we must continue to realize and we tend to forgot that these franchise cells throughout the middle east have proliferated and it's extraordinary important for us to understand why that threat is diffused for that very reason. >> let's talk about one of those cells. we keep hearing about al qaeda in the arab peninsula. they have an incredibly skilled bombmaker. what else can you tell us about them and how they might be involved? >> it's unclear at this point. there were tli drone strikes in yemen five days last week and a lot of activity going on there. they tried to carry out the 2009 bombing of an airliner flying in detroit that was an underwear bomb. there is increasing sophisticating from that in yemen. problems in yemen troops have been sort of not fighting. they have been rebelling against the government. i think yemen is a real challenge for the obama administration. they have tried to use drone strikes there. they have tried training and it has not worked well. i think they might need to reassess what the
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bin laden's personal secretary -- is reportedly now the second in command in the organization world wide. emily schmidt: is this an his mark? paul cruickshank: it may well be this a naser al- wuhayshi's coming out party as the number two of al qaeda. the plot was in this works as this announcement was going to come out that he was playing this bigger role in they al qaeda global terrorist network. president obama stuck to his planned weekend schedule--golfing, and going to camp david for his birthday. a white house official says the president will continue to be updated about the threat through the weekend. the white house says it will notcomment on intelligence in this case-- particularly as it relates to a new york times report that says some of this intelligence came from intercepted electronic communications between senior al qaeda operatives. emily schmidt kron4 news. the obama administration is overturning a looming ban on older apple iphones and ipads. the ban was put in place by the international trade commission. it stemmed from a patent dispute apple and samsung. it's the
bin laden's personal secretary -- is reportedly now the second in command in the organization world wide. emily schmidt: is this an his mark? paul cruickshank: it may well be this a naser al- wuhayshi's coming out party as the number two of al qaeda. the plot was in this works as this announcement was going to come out that he was playing this bigger role in they al qaeda global terrorist network. president obama stuck to his planned weekend schedule--golfing, and going to camp david for his...
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where is osama bin laden from? where is he from? yemen and saudi arabia. >> saudi arabia. >> that is core al-qaeda. >> the people who attacked us were saudi arabians, where the new threat is coming from. >> chris: howard kurtz, you'll learn you have to jump in. >> maybe the administration is suffering from post-benghazi syndrome and is overreacting. we don't know the classified details. it's based on intelligence intercepts, so i don't think it's an exercise. to be fair, barack obama never rolled out a mission accomplished banner and said that the threat had been completely eradicated. for all the chatter on sunday morning talk shows and elsewhere, about whether the blocks is smart, whether they're doing too much, too little, that pales if there were american casualties and everybody would be on the white house, why didn't you do something before the attack took place. >> chris: senator demint, does the administration's policy -- i mean, look, they don't need any excuse to hate us. they hate us. they'll continue to hate us, the bad
where is osama bin laden from? where is he from? yemen and saudi arabia. >> saudi arabia. >> that is core al-qaeda. >> the people who attacked us were saudi arabians, where the new threat is coming from. >> chris: howard kurtz, you'll learn you have to jump in. >> maybe the administration is suffering from post-benghazi syndrome and is overreacting. we don't know the classified details. it's based on intelligence intercepts, so i don't think it's an exercise. to be...
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he said al qaeda, we decimated the top leadership and we killed osama bin laden and the main number two or number three leaders. i don't think anything he said was inaccurate. the reality is al qaeda has been reconstituted in different satellite organizations across the region. so we have al qaeda in libya, for example. al qaeda in the sudan, for example. so it's not just the old al qaeda in afghanistan or iraq. al qaeda is taking different forms and shapes and that's the reality that the state department -- >> repeat my question. he said we decimated al qaeda, okay? he said they were not the threat that they once were, however you wish to paraphrase it. our clips were pretty specific. have they now, thankfully, changed their position about the al qaeda threat? is that what you hear about this announcement? >> no. this is an administration that's been ever vigilant in fighting the threat since they came in office. they were focused about getting osama bin laden from the beginning and they've been executing drone strikes at a rate faster than the bush administration and by the way, that'
he said al qaeda, we decimated the top leadership and we killed osama bin laden and the main number two or number three leaders. i don't think anything he said was inaccurate. the reality is al qaeda has been reconstituted in different satellite organizations across the region. so we have al qaeda in libya, for example. al qaeda in the sudan, for example. so it's not just the old al qaeda in afghanistan or iraq. al qaeda is taking different forms and shapes and that's the reality that the state...
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bin laden, and the yemenis, the u.s. may be taking a cautious but necessary approach. >> in may there was a plot broken up against the u.s. embassy in cairo. in november of last year there was a plot against the u.s. embassy in amman, jordan. it's not just benghazi. there has been an increased threat against u.s. interest in the middle east. this is very much ayman al will zawahiri's strategy. >> there is some disagreement in the intelligence community about what may be happening. some believe it's all about a possible attack in yemen. some believe it is about a broader range of attacks in the region. but there is no disagreement over how serious it is. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> well, let's bring in tom fuentes, our law enforcement analyst, a former assistant fbi director and, as far as working overseas, he was on interpol's executive committee for many years. tom, good to see you. about these embassy closures, it's absolutely huge that this is actually going on. what does it tell you about the intel they hav
bin laden, and the yemenis, the u.s. may be taking a cautious but necessary approach. >> in may there was a plot broken up against the u.s. embassy in cairo. in november of last year there was a plot against the u.s. embassy in amman, jordan. it's not just benghazi. there has been an increased threat against u.s. interest in the middle east. this is very much ayman al will zawahiri's strategy. >> there is some disagreement in the intelligence community about what may be happening....
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or osama bin laden or sean hannity. these are horrible names! >> sean hannity, that is not fair. >> all kidding aside, one quick thing, i know stephanie wants to jump in. in tennessee, turned statute of child abuse, it includes not just physical abuse, but imminent mental abuse. if you're going to name your child messiah or a worse name, a more challenging name, the child live withes it, not the parent. they think it's cute and fun. your kid has to go every day with that and get beaten up or ostracized from society. that's wrong. >> stephanie, dean makes a point. but dean, messiah is number four among fastest growing baby names in this country. so there are lots of messiahs running around. so, you know, when a judge -- forget the judge's rationale. even deecan's rationale, does i add up that the name would be some insipient child abuse? >> well, a worm hole has opened in the universe yet again in that i agree with michael. >> i was -- >> the judge -- the judge is clearly overreaching here. you know, sadly there is no law against being an idiotic
or osama bin laden or sean hannity. these are horrible names! >> sean hannity, that is not fair. >> all kidding aside, one quick thing, i know stephanie wants to jump in. in tennessee, turned statute of child abuse, it includes not just physical abuse, but imminent mental abuse. if you're going to name your child messiah or a worse name, a more challenging name, the child live withes it, not the parent. they think it's cute and fun. your kid has to go every day with that and get...
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it was the affiliate that osama bin laden thought had the best chance of really being powerful and causing a long-term threat. the information is vague. it is from intercepts. although it's not, thank goodness, the meta data from the u.s. because there's no evidence of there being in contact with somebody in the u.s. and being captured in that meta data. there's a reference to being heard from the enemy, which leads people to think it's the u.s. but could also be western europe. what makes this so scary is that the chatter is going back and forth in part between al qaeda in yemen and core al qaeda, which is loosely based, still, in pakistan, the tribal areas, afghanistan. maybe even the top figure in al qaeda now, with bin laden gone, ayman al zawahiri. so this combination of things makes it looks to people scarier than some of the chatter they picked up. >> can you put this in perspective over the last ten years, let's say, it used to be that we heard of the chatter going on around the clock. we had a discussion yesterday on "meet the press" about the ability of al qaeda to still strike c
it was the affiliate that osama bin laden thought had the best chance of really being powerful and causing a long-term threat. the information is vague. it is from intercepts. although it's not, thank goodness, the meta data from the u.s. because there's no evidence of there being in contact with somebody in the u.s. and being captured in that meta data. there's a reference to being heard from the enemy, which leads people to think it's the u.s. but could also be western europe. what makes this...
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we know that terrorist use technology to coordinate, and if osama bin laden was calling someone in the united states, we n't his stockbroker.hat because people need to know that the government is not going to gary all this information on them and one day in the future use it against them or have it leaked. this is a legitimate issue, and balancing those is not easy, and i think what we're struggling with as a country, how to protect americans and also protect their individual liberties and private expectations. it's not a trivial issue. >> neil: looks like republican are having a hard time reconciling those two extremes to hear senator paul tell it, if we're getting these constant reports out of the nsa that it went beyond just collecting over 115 million american phone records, to the latest news that is was every e-mail, every site folks went on so much information, so fast, they really couldn't even hold it that long because it was too massive to hold. that does raise the kind of concerns that senator paul has had, that chris christie seems to dismiss. >> but first of all, of course
we know that terrorist use technology to coordinate, and if osama bin laden was calling someone in the united states, we n't his stockbroker.hat because people need to know that the government is not going to gary all this information on them and one day in the future use it against them or have it leaked. this is a legitimate issue, and balancing those is not easy, and i think what we're struggling with as a country, how to protect americans and also protect their individual liberties and...
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osama bin laden is no more. al-qaeda has been decimated. osama bin laden is dead. >> andrew: 19 embassies across the middle east remain closed today due to talks of a possible al-qaeda terrorist attack. our next guest says it's the white house policies that got us into the situation in the first place. joining us now, texas congressman louis gohmert. congressman, it's a pleasure. welcome. >> always good to be with you. >> andrew: what policies of this white house got us into a position where benghazi can happen and overnight, we have to shut down 19 embassies in the middle east? >> it's this administration's idea that you can go give a pretty speech and apologize really well and then everybody will love you, which it has not happened. we've lost credibility in muslim nations under this president. then the other thing, in answer to the question, what difference does it make at this point, if you don't get to the bottom of why our security was breached in benghazi, just like we never got to the bottom of why the embassies were bombed under pr
osama bin laden is no more. al-qaeda has been decimated. osama bin laden is dead. >> andrew: 19 embassies across the middle east remain closed today due to talks of a possible al-qaeda terrorist attack. our next guest says it's the white house policies that got us into the situation in the first place. joining us now, texas congressman louis gohmert. congressman, it's a pleasure. welcome. >> always good to be with you. >> andrew: what policies of this white house got us into a...
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. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy america. "outfront" next why dr. sanjay gupta change ed his mind on weed. an about-face and he h eel explain why. >>> then are you driving a compact car that failed a crash test? we have the alarming results. >>> and a double play. he made the catch but what he did next was the true score. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for
. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy...
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osama bin laden is dead. mr. obama has also claimed that al-qaeda's core leadership is decimated, and who can forget during the first presidential run in 2008 when he vowed to root out al-qaeda, close guantanamo and improve america's moral stature around the world. then the drones came and the world sees us as merciless. merciless is what we should have been a long time ago in this conflict. new strategies and double talking generals reduced warfare to an academic exercise, shape shifting and parsing above the gravity of the enemy's threat, playing the stump master with slogans, anything to avoid saying outright what the average american knows. terrorists are alive and waiting for the big jihad payoff. why shouldn't they be when in 2009 the president announced that he was adding a token 30,000 u.s. troops to our afghan force at the same time he revealed his plan for a phased withdrawal. this was a courtesy to an al-qaeda and taliban actors who now had an expiration date for america's war. obama's heart was never
osama bin laden is dead. mr. obama has also claimed that al-qaeda's core leadership is decimated, and who can forget during the first presidential run in 2008 when he vowed to root out al-qaeda, close guantanamo and improve america's moral stature around the world. then the drones came and the world sees us as merciless. merciless is what we should have been a long time ago in this conflict. new strategies and double talking generals reduced warfare to an academic exercise, shape shifting and...
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. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy america. >>> our tourt fourth story outfront, dr. sanjay gupta changes his mind on weed. 20 states allow medical marijuana. and the medical community seems to be changing its mind on pot. but you know, not everybody is. a lot are adamantly against it. but there is a dramatic turn around for dr. gupta who just four years ago wrote an article for "time" magazine titled why i would vote no for pot. the ground breaking new documentary airing this sunday on cnn. and in it, he explained why he changed his mind. sanjay, the fda says marijuana is harmful, we know that. michael bloomberg is quoted saying medical mariju
. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy...
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. >>> president obama credited the marines for taking down osama bin laden and he had a warning about the dangers out there. >> al qaeda affiliates and like-minded extremists still threaten our homeland, still threaten our diplomatic facilities, still threaten our businesses abroad. we have to take these threats seriously. >> the signs of the threat triggered a global terror alert an the basis for it. what got everyone so worked up? eli lake and josh row gan believe they know. their daily beast article is headed al qaeda conference call intercepted by u.s. officials sparked alerts. some kind of conference call that one intelligence official described it this way, like the meeting of he legion of doom. we are joined by fran townsend. she serves on the dhs and security advisory boards. i know you can only say so much because you want to protect sources and are concerned about balancing your reporting with national security. cnn has spoken to a number of sources tell, as well as terrorism experts who say that 20-plus leaders of al qaeda communicating with each other at the same time on a
. >>> president obama credited the marines for taking down osama bin laden and he had a warning about the dangers out there. >> al qaeda affiliates and like-minded extremists still threaten our homeland, still threaten our diplomatic facilities, still threaten our businesses abroad. we have to take these threats seriously. >> the signs of the threat triggered a global terror alert an the basis for it. what got everyone so worked up? eli lake and josh row gan believe they...
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is exactly what osama bin laden was trying to bring about. he did not he believed -- believe he could destroy buildings in order to do real damage. what he thought is we could turn on each other. passed itng the house shouldn't. the houses approving tougher sanctions. the toughest sanctions yet on iran. brush aside calls for restraint by critics that said the election should first be given a chance to negotiate. how did you vote? what you think about iran these days? guest: voted in favor of it and introduce five amendments and did not think it is enough. i am not one of the people who bring we should water these things down. " we're doing is not working. to have awant iran nuclear weapon. it is not an experiment and one to ever run. i do not think every country deserves nuclear-weapons. i did not believe that at all. question, are we willing to take the risk? there is a great debate whether we should allow the soviet union to have nuclear weapons? the same debate occurred with china. saying publicly they want to destroy america, i do not kno
is exactly what osama bin laden was trying to bring about. he did not he believed -- believe he could destroy buildings in order to do real damage. what he thought is we could turn on each other. passed itng the house shouldn't. the houses approving tougher sanctions. the toughest sanctions yet on iran. brush aside calls for restraint by critics that said the election should first be given a chance to negotiate. how did you vote? what you think about iran these days? guest: voted in favor of it...
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because of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been handled. the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the way to defeat. that happened because of you. because of you, more afghans are re-claiming their communities, their markets, their schools, their towns. they have a chance to forge their own future. because of you, more afghans are trained in stepping up and defending their own country. because of you and to preserve the gains you fought and bled for, we are going to make sure that afghanistan is never again a source of attacks against our country. that happened because of you. so the war in afghanistan will end, for you that means fewer deployments, more training time, preparing for the future, getting back to what marines do better than anybody else on earth, amphibious operations. it means more time here on the home front with your families, your wives, your husbands, your kids. but, of course, the end of the war in afghanistan doesn't mean the end of threats to our nation. as i've said before, even as we decimated the al qa
because of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been handled. the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the way to defeat. that happened because of you. because of you, more afghans are re-claiming their communities, their markets, their schools, their towns. they have a chance to forge their own future. because of you, more afghans are trained in stepping up and defending their own country. because of you and to preserve the gains you fought...
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bin laden. what is also true is that al qaeda and affiliated organizations represent a continued threat to the united states. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it is 22 past the hour. >> 8:22 a.m. eastern time. >> that's when you're at your best, 8:22. that's where you peak. so nicole, it's so fascinating listening to the obama administration talking about the threat from al qaeda. they are balancing so many of the same things that the bush administration balanced. what's interesting is when they put america on high alert, you don't have everybody in the press going, are they doing this for political reasons. aren't you waiting for the first major newspaper to make that suggestion? i haven't heard it yet. >> it is interesting. i think this is a place where where else do we have representative king and jay carney saying exactly the same thing, singing from exactly the same song sheet. it gives us reinsurance about the truth of something incredibly dire and depressing, the threat of terrorism is a
bin laden. what is also true is that al qaeda and affiliated organizations represent a continued threat to the united states. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it is 22 past the hour. >> 8:22 a.m. eastern time. >> that's when you're at your best, 8:22. that's where you peak. so nicole, it's so fascinating listening to the obama administration talking about the threat from al qaeda. they are balancing so many of the same things that the bush administration balanced....
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osama bin laden was there and they were basically any way asking us to come in. is that not a factor for any of 9/11 occurred? >> guest: thank you for your question. i am not aware of that specific cable. i do know is you will recall president clinton did receive intelligence that bin laden was in different neighboring country in sudan and after evaluation of options that president clinton did elect to send a cruise missile into sudan where he was believed to be holed up and unfortunately he was not there. i'm not aware of that particular cable from the yemeni government. >> host: another question from jane on our twitter page. isn't the revelation that we can track chatter from al qaeda a more serious breach than edward snowden's domestic spying leak? >> guest: is a great point that jim makes. basically you are right, jim. in many ways it is because at least in this particular instance it has now been revealed that we actually were listening in on the communications between i'm on all zawahiri and the leader of the aqap. unfortunately it was revealed that most l
osama bin laden was there and they were basically any way asking us to come in. is that not a factor for any of 9/11 occurred? >> guest: thank you for your question. i am not aware of that specific cable. i do know is you will recall president clinton did receive intelligence that bin laden was in different neighboring country in sudan and after evaluation of options that president clinton did elect to send a cruise missile into sudan where he was believed to be holed up and unfortunately...
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>> remember how osama bin laden was operating, it could take three weeks. he's issuing general guidance, more higher level guidance and leaving the tactics up to genuine it's. >> you tried to get him when you were head of national intelligence. i assume the u.s. is still trying to get him. why is it so hard to get ayman al zawahiri? >> who is that guy in our country, richard jewell, he disappeared in our country. >> the outgoing cia, the deputy director, he gave an interviews to the wall street journal in which he said syria is probably the most important issue in the world today because of where it is currently heading. he's deeply concerned about chemical weapon stockpiles, other weapons in syria getting into the hands of al qaeda and others. is this the biggest national security threat the u.s. faces right now? >> i would say as far as the geopolitical situation, i would agree with mike morel. it's not just the chemical weapon. if you look at the place that syria occupies, the funnel for iranian aid going to hezbollah, so it's a life line for hezbollah,
>> remember how osama bin laden was operating, it could take three weeks. he's issuing general guidance, more higher level guidance and leaving the tactics up to genuine it's. >> you tried to get him when you were head of national intelligence. i assume the u.s. is still trying to get him. why is it so hard to get ayman al zawahiri? >> who is that guy in our country, richard jewell, he disappeared in our country. >> the outgoing cia, the deputy director, he gave an...